Comments on: A Collision Course For Failure

By: rare pennies

rare pennies — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:58:59 +0000

My situation is very similar to #2. I have lots of plans, read loads of ebooks but still lack motivation when I discover something great. The reason is I spend my time on forums trying to look for something even better

By: Emilian

Emilian — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:09:53 +0000

Thanks for the reply Ruck.

Yes, I am testing keywords with higher bids etc.

The problem is that this testing (by testing I mean tracking keywords for conversions) is eating away at my profits, and there is a gap between when I have to pay Adwords and when I get paid myself.

I guess you could call it my very own “liquidity crunch”. Ha ha.

Have you tried LeadPile to further monetise your lead generation sites?

You can throw the form pretty much anywhere and get some additional revenue.

By: Ruck

Ruck — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:42:27 +0000

Hey someone got it :),

No probs Greazy!

By: Greazster

Greazster — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:28:54 +0000

You know what Ruck.
You were the first one to come straight at me to help try to guide me..wow its been over a year ago now.
Maybe that is why I almost literally looked at this post in your blog as a slight a$$ chewin at me.
Any how, I followed the link to Andrews Video and watched it..
And realize I have been scratching my a$$ for the last year..
Deffinently a well laid out New years resolution of hard core work is in order for me.
Though this post wasnt meant directly for me,
Thanks for the a$$ chewin.

By: Ruck

Ruck — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:47:03 +0000

@ Mike — I do dabble in the gambling industry but that is completely by banner advertising in the UK and and a certain undisclosed method I use on Ebay. I have also dabbled in the adult industry and it aint for me. I have never promoted any type of energy bars, but I do sell a few CPA offers with pills in the weight loss industry.

I specifically deal with affiliate products so in my case no, I don’t have to keep and inventory. I become an affiliate with a network and go thru the process of reviewing the companies and products listed within that network. I am given a an affiliate link, often times the links will be seperated to use as contextual, search, a banner creative or email txt or HTML creative.

The only cost I have is buying advertising and outsourcing work I feel will take up too much time when I can have someone else doing it for me. Of course, I also have hosting and domain costs and certain tools and subscriptions. But utilizing a service such as blogger, you can sign up to networks for free and often times get started promoting right away.

Everything I sell is completely digital or handled by a network.

By: Volo Mike

Volo Mike — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:37:51 +0000

Ruck, in your particular case, did you have to do something seedy like gambling, pr0n, energy bars or pills in order to get traffic? Sure, it might generate traffic, but then I could also get hauled off by the police or be required to keep an inventory of products, which leads me to the next question.

You speak of “products”. Do you keep an inventory of something tangible and market that online, in your case? Managing inventories and keeping up with that cost seems tough.

Volomike aka Supermike

By: Ruck

Ruck — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:08:37 +0000

@ emilian — Well, did you test these keywords in the first place? I mean I understand your already past that point so right now you can definitely try to scale up those keywords. Don’t necessarily take away the higher priced keywords IF YOUR IN PROFIT, but definitely get some more keywords and track, track, track.

Congrats on the 3K in that niche. That in itself is a great accomplishement. If your pulling that money and are in the net profit, defintitely scale that thing and see what you come up with.
Very Impressive!

@ Monty — No worries. I did the exact thing starting out. It’s so much better and quite a moral boost knowing that your products or ads can bring revenue, than thinking they can.

By: Monty

Monty — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:00:51 +0000

Yep, I definitely seem to be a #3. Back to the drawing board.

Nice post.

By: Emilian

Emilian — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:51:14 +0000

Hey Ruck.

Thanks for the post.

I understand what you are saying about failure.

My situation is “Number 3″: I have sites set up, but I am struggling with finding the right mix of keywords on Adwords.

Some questions that run through my mind:

1) Should I scale up and have a list of 10,000 keywords? Should I just focus on “fringe” keywords that aren’t getting too many impressions but are cheaper to bid on?

2) Which keywords do I take from Adwords to use on Yahoo or MSN?

I started out in the Payday niche, and have been able to get 3K in lead gen. but would like to take my game to the next level.

Your blog is the best. Very good reading and full of good information!

Thanks.