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December 14th, 2007 @8:02 pm  

I feel the same way. Why depend on free sites only to make you sales, when they can delete you work at the drop of a hat?

Better to create funnels into a site you own. Doing this allowed my to create my first profitable website early last month.

I look forward to hearing what else you have to say.

mo Said,
December 14th, 2007 @8:23 pm  

hehe, i was one of those dudes you said are working too hard. i used to get my products and then use these authority sites just to make sales from. recently though, i have been trying to put together something exactly like what you are getting ready to show us now…

great timing. i cant wait to kick start this one and continue to build my deep empire.

@matt: i agree with you. it sucks knowing that if u are just using these sites for sales, they at any time can pull the plug on your efforts… i like the new way of using these ‘hosts’

Ruck Said,
December 14th, 2007 @8:57 pm  

The next part is coming up with your sites themed keyword list to propagate relevancy thru interlinking your funnels. I have found that just using content on the web with RSS feeds (when possible) is all you really need for these sites. Just as long as they are updating.

I have left the biggest part of interlinking out for a reason though. You’ll know why when I show you :)

December 14th, 2007 @9:16 pm  

What do you use for building your sites. Wordpress, Dreamweaver, ready made scripts?

Ruck Said,
December 14th, 2007 @11:31 pm  

Hey rare,

I really like to get scripts done. I won’t show any of my sites where I paid for a script to be made but I will certainly reveal sites that have scripts available online.

For niche sites, I go with Wordpress. I do this so I can incorporate feeds, but I am at an almost standstill. I only build niche sites if I need to focus on PPC landing pages, whereas I can just test my large shopping pages sites and see if they convert, if I am doing CPA , I much rather build small sites on domains or subs to cater to the offer.

Denise Said,
December 15th, 2007 @11:47 am  

Ruck, I am just getting ready to build a new site. This is going to be my main site for a long while. Are you saying, according to your last paragraph, not to make it a wordpress site? Glad I read this today. Oh! I also signed up for your feedreader but I am not getting notices in my e-mail. Not sure why?

XRay Said,
December 15th, 2007 @2:38 pm  

Another excellent article, Ruck.

Yeah I was one of those pesky “gnats”. I made some affiliate money in a new niche this way, but it was a whole lot of work setting up Squidoo lenses, hub pages, blogger blogs & linking them together. Looking back, it would have been much easier (not to mention smarter) to direct the traffic to an opt-in page. I would have made a lot more money. Now it’s time to correct all that.

Looking forward to your next article on this.

Newcomer Said,
December 15th, 2007 @3:45 pm  

Hi Ruck!

Whats your suggestion, how to create lenses/ minisites the fastest way at: Squidoo - Blogger - Yahoo 360 Blogs - Hubpages - Geocities - Google Pages - Weebly - WikiPedia - Twitter - Live Spaces - Tumblr?

PS: I luv your blog!

Paul Said,
December 15th, 2007 @5:22 pm  

Hey Ruck,

Great post, as always.

Newcomer, Peter Drew has several WSO’s - $10 each - that can go somewhat to answering your question.

Paul.

Ruck Said,
December 15th, 2007 @6:14 pm  

@ Denise — Not sure Denise when did you sign up? Also, I am not saying to NOT build Wordpress sites, I love them. They get indexed super quick and so easy to get some pagerank and ranking juice after 90 days usually if you just get a few good links. I am specifically talking about large affiliate shopping sites. Maybe like a hundred -100,000 pages.

@ Xray — Totally understandable, I did the same thing on a very massive scale. So massive I got in trouble at blogger and lost over 400 lenses. Piggybacking these middle men sites to a free product is alright to get some optins. I much rather try to put the optin directly on the middle man site if at all possible because directed to yet another site kills conversions and we miss out a lot.

@ Newcomer - Since I am really only creating on these places for 1 certain reason (to funnel to affiliate sites) I have found that taking just 1 morning to set everything up is more than enough. There really is not trick unless you get software for them and usually that costs money, but you can easily setup a funneling network of backlinks and whatever traffic these sites will produce for you in a day. It just takes practice.

@ Paul — A link to the WSO would be great Paul, but I will go search it out and see what’s going on.

Mini Said,
December 15th, 2007 @7:02 pm  

Hi Ruck,
pertaining to the Twitter part, how do we actually build backlinks to our sites ?? I notice that twitter is using tinyurl for redirect.

Since that, wouldn’t it kill off the link juice ??

Thanks

Ruck Said,
December 15th, 2007 @8:08 pm  

In my opinion yes, however bots still follow redirects so your still getting the power of indexing and bots do determine it’s a redirect.

Also if your making a nice profile around your site you get the second part of the equation as well:

“whatever traffic these sites will produce”

Which can accumulate to tons over time. It all ties in together–>you’ll see.

December 16th, 2007 @3:19 pm  

Like you said your time is money.

If doing parasite sites or link farms, I’d hire an indian outsourcer at $700-800 a month and they could probably build 500-600 sites by hand in that time.

If you’re going for high payout products (either $100+ per sale or with recurring or better yet, with both) your system pays for itself within a month.

If you’re building a list on the back of that, you can just kill it and beat many of the gurus when it comes to competitions…

December 16th, 2007 @3:20 pm  

IMO sales are a better metric than indexing or SERP position…

Ruck Said,
December 16th, 2007 @6:08 pm  

Awesome reply Andrew, your killing the next part of my post :)

December 17th, 2007 @12:06 am  

Yo Ruck,

Thanks………I think….

Denise Said,
December 17th, 2007 @11:27 am  

Thanks for the reply Ruck. I signed up again for the Feed again. Will see what happens. This is a great post for me. I now have to look at Squidoo differently and stop wasting so much time there.

Newcomer Said,
December 17th, 2007 @5:47 pm  

Yo Ruck!

Would it be possible to show us some examples, ie: screenshots of typical parasite sites, money sites, etc. Im not asking you to show us your sites, but a random one. It could be very helpful for the noobs like me.
Thx

December 17th, 2007 @6:43 pm  

A parasite site is any website which doesn’t belong to you and which gives you page rank and/or traffic

examples are blogpost blogs, squidoo lenses, myspace profiles, hubpages, articles, press releases, videos (youtube, metacafe, revver).

take your pick…
there’s a buttload of grunt work though, generally not very high return on your effort unless you got helpers….

fddasd Said,
May 23rd, 2008 @2:59 am  

thumbs up!
i agree.

Kevin Said,
May 23rd, 2008 @3:02 am  

Yes… some examples WOULD be nice…

john Said,
July 11th, 2008 @10:50 am  

Yes good Post! @ andrew wee I would find it interesting where you hire someone to build you 500-600 Sites for 800$ ?? Please let me know.
Another advantage of the parasites is that they have multible IPs. I think its the best to mix it all together: Your own network (maybe build by outsourced india services) PLUS your parasite network…

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