Wednesday, December 5th, 2007

From Zero 2 Hero Series – 60 Days To List Building Domination – Part 2

From Zero 2 HeroIt’s now time to shift our focus on the elements surrounding where and how to start building our list at a rapid pace. Fortunately for you I have broken this down into the simplest tasks imaginable. As a matter of fact, some of the techniques are so simple that your probably going to look at me and think I am crazy. I assure you it won’t be the first time I have been accused of it. I always get a kick out of seeing what people say when I tell them I still utilize traffic exchanges. What? Yea, most people think and assume they are a waste of time and usually they are if you don’t know what your doing. When your in a traffic exchange your marketing to the newest of the new and you have to know their needs inside and out AND have one hell of a squeeze page to get signups. Nonetheless, I know two people personally that have made their livings online using traffic exchanges. So the next time you rag on traffic exchanges, just think about the people who do make their livings online using them. Nothing is impossible, but you have to know EXACTLY what to do or you will fail miserably.

Ok, enough about traffic exchanges, I am going to teach you about that later but right now the focus is on rapid movement and to do that, we need to start off in places that are free or very low cost and have huge amounts of traffic volume. Traffic volume is significant but what’s even more important is we have to be in places where we know people are likely to spend money.

The easiest way to start off and at the fastest speed possible is Classified Advertising. What? That doesn’t work does it? No, if your having doubts that it doesn’t work then there is no reason why you should read the rest of this post. You may go on and keep looking for that next miracle. For the ones interested I will outline the services I utilize to make the least amount of work possible to obtain a self growing email list interested in making money online.

First Principle

You will have to brand yourself somewhat. I know for some they like their identities hidden somewhat on the web and that’s cool. I can tell you right now that I didn’t get to where I am at today by hiding my identity. I am very upfront of who I am, that I engage in some aggressive money making tactics online and even some of the darkest tactics out there. It’s the fact that I really don’t give a shit what other people think of me. I didn’t get here because everyone thinks I am a good guy, I got here because I am me, and I work my tail off at what I do. Maybe it could be better if I wasn’t so upfront, but then again I live comfortably so what is the point of greed?

So you will have to make a choice in whether you want to brand yourself or site. I would say for the people wanting to remain a little hidden to use a pseudo name or site name. You think it up, I’ll tell you what to do.

Second Principle

Your going to have to know how to write classified ads. What like Usfreeads? Yea sort of, that will be one of the services we utilize but to get us off to a fast start you will need to get real familiar with Ebay Classifieds. Why?

For $9.95 a 30 day Ebay classified ad is very cheap. The site is packed with people wanting to spend money and by providing them a free ebook on how to get started making money online is as easy as it gets. Now, let’s add in the fact that Ebay has a built in HTML editor we could very easily (and I do) build email lists rapidly just from an optin form for free ebooks within the ad itself. I told you there would be a little cost involved but don’t worry because I have it all worked out to your benefit. Now, let’s think about this for a second. For only $30 you can actually feature this classifed ad for 30 days. That is only $1 a day to have a built optin form on a featured ad being rotated in one of the busiest sites in the world where people are spending money. Powerful right? It get’s even better.

The tactic is so easy and can be stretched so many ways but I actually promote ebooks I have resell rights to. I like to use general ebooks like Income4Beginners. Now to promote Income4Beginners it is a free ebook and only comes with giveaway rights. You have to purchase the rebranding rights for $40. This book is by far my best converter so I am sharing it here, but you should know that you have to go download the ebook and then purchase the rebranding rights at the end for $40. You can use whatever you want here, I am just sharing my best tactic and the book I use to lure people in.

The cool thing about this book is that each time you give it away thru your autoresponder and someone wants the rebranding rights as well, you get paid $40 automatically to your Paypal. There are no strings, if they ever have questions they don’t contact you, they contact the author. Just one sale and your whole 30 days featured classified ad is taken care of. Pretty simple, but by far my best tactic and often at times I only use this tactic. It works great in the weight loss niche which I just gave you another niche, so don’t screw me over to hard ok?

Third Principle

Alright I just gave you the fastest and best method first. Unfortunately it costs money and I realize that some people won’t want to try it. To coax you into how powerful it is, I want to give you a free tactic here that will of course pull in leads at fairly decent rates for free. It’s the powerful site Yahoo Answers. The unfortunate part of this is that it requires a little more work than the Ebay method. Once you set the Ebay method up it runs on its own for a month. The only maintenance it requires is to renew the ad each month. But while it’s running on autopilot I have managed to save you even more time to utilize Yahoo. All you really need to do is answer questions related to your niche. A simple way to do this is to type your keywords such as “make money online” and answer as many questions as you can. Do not spam, but kindly let people know about the free ebook you got for beginners online.

Redirect, Cloak, or Squeeze Page

Fortunately for us the copy on Income4Beginners converts. I have test both sending them straight to the site here, but the bad thing is that we cannot build our own list that way. If you bought the rights then you can obviously answer some questions fast with a domain redirect or cloak and get people to download the book. Inside the book they will have the same options as you and either way you will make $40 per sale. I personally use a squeeze page so that I can direct them to optin and get the information delivered immediately. When they do that I send them to this link instead of this one. That way after they optin to me, they get a direct ebook link to download instead of having to optin a second time which would and has killed my conversions. You can do it either way but I would highly suggest setting up your own squeeze.

Fourth Principle

This is so simple. You will need a Usfreeads Premium Account. I believe it runs $9.99 a month or something like that. You will need the ability of using HTML in your ads so that is why you need the Usfreeads account. This is another built in classified ads system with a large user base, ready to buy, and you can put your optin form into your ads directly. This works just like Ebay except that you can set all your ads to auto renew and it don’t cost for each one. You can simply pay $9.95 a month and post as many ads as you can possibly type. This is great because there are literally hundreds of categories to post in. What I do is write one good ad with optin form in it and then I copy this ad into Notepad. Then when you are ready to go all out and post 30-40 ads is as simple as copy/paste the body text and only changing the headline each time. See how powerful this? You could literally have the same optin form across hundreds of ads and would only take you a few hours and these ads will auto renew themselves month in and month out. I don’t know how it could get any easier. If you do some basic keyword research, your ad will rank in the search engines as well, pulling even more free traffic. So live and die by the title.

Fifth Principle

There are literally millions of people in other countries that want to make money online as well. So let’s go get them!

First we will travel to Kijiji in Canada. This is a very nice classifieds ads site and sports a ton of people as well. I would personally suggest posting in places such as Calgary, Montreal or Toronto. Just look at a globe and you will know the large cities of Canada. Now Kijiji has a built in HTML editor but I have been unable to post an optin form here. However you can use images, colored text, anything in the ad. This is great for us because we could anchor text our links to our squeeze page and have people optin from there to receive their free ebook. Just read the guidelines at Kijiji, it’s a powerful weapon to have on our side because I have not even encountered competition there AT ALL. I undoubtedly will now, but hey sharing is cool right?

An Even Better Trick is to have them email you. You could anchor text the email address right there in the ad and it won’t even require to advertise your site at Kijiji. Now, I have never had problems posting in the services or jobs category but I know what I am doing so if you encounter problems just tell people to email you at a Gmail account. Now in your Gmail account, set your autoresponder to away or vacation status and have your autoresponse say something like this:

Thanks for emailing me about the free ebook and information on how to get started making money online. For simple purposes I have posted it on a webpage. All you need to do is go here (link to squeeze) and tell me where to send it. Once you tell me, the information will be immediately emailed to you. Thanks and have a great day, Ruck

Something nice and sincere and you will lure them in by the hundreds. Have a look at Kijiji Canada and get familiar with it. There is also Kijiji.com for the US so it’s just another resource to utilize.

Sixth Principle

Hello UK, here we come! Taking the UK by storm with this technique is as simple as it is in Canada. For this we want to travel over to the ever popular Gumtree. The same principles apply here as they did at Kijiji. Now there is no HTML editor here so utilizing your autoresponder on Gmail is of the utmost importance. There are some other things there as well like providing a Skype username or Youtube Url. I haven’t tested it yet but if Skype allows it like most instant messengers I would set my status away on a skype account with an autoresponse. I haven’t tested it yet but I will. However I have used MSN Messenger with this inside the body of my ad and it adds credibility. Give them your Gmail account and they will get the autoresponse to your squeeze page to optin and give them your MSN addy (bogus of course for this) and set your MSN status as away and have it auto deliver the same message as your Gmail autoresponder. Awesome huh!

I would post my ad in the London, Stuff For Sale, freebies section. I know it’s a little untargeted but the make money online niche is very broad and for the product your giving away it’s surefire way to funnel tons of prospects onto your list for future education and of course offers from you to make more money on the lifetime value of your list members.

Seventh Principle

A few more sites with reputations for high volume are Craigslist, Backpage, and Adpost. I personally do not utilize the Craigslist services anymore as I have found that its user base is quick to delete almost any ad I put up. You can try them out but for what we are doing I bet you’ll get a better return elsewhere.

First thing about Backpage is that they are fairly lenient which will allow to post lots of ads. However utilizing their service has led me to a resource on there almost as good as their ads services. They have forums as well! Backpage has a large set of subforums that can be utilized. I have seen tons of work from home stuff flow thru their employment sections flawlessly. So while your putting your ad up on their classifieds service, don’t forget to mention that your offering your service (ebook) free. A nice post here and there providing value and a good signature line will go along ways as you build consistency over the period of list building domination.

Adpost on the other hand is a true gem. I will share one of many secrets here. For all the people who were trying to get Usfreeads ranked highly in the search engines, what happened with the last pagerank update? Usfreeads went down ALOT. A little secret I have been holding in for a long time is Adpost is to Yahoo what Usfreeads was to Google. I still to this day, trackback a lot of Adpost ads to get ranked highly in the Yahoo Search Engine. Now you may hate me for not sharing that sooner, but that would have caused an infiltration of marketers and I could not have that could I? Well, you have the information now, so use it. Adpost will allow to post to multiple countries as well, and I would highly suggest you take advantage of this. Posting outside of the US and being one of the first and few to do it, will yield the highest returns in very short amount of times.

In Closing…

I hope you get the idea here on how easy this really is. Some places allow us to use optin forms with their HTML editors like Usfreeads and Ebay and this should be used to its fullest extent first. I recommend Ebay as the quickest way to get signups and sales if you can afford to run the ads. I have given out one great product, my best one as a matter of fact to use. The only thing I suggest is that you do not market to other marketers. I cannot tell you how important this is if your not making very much money already. If you are and can provide credibility then you can succeed at this, but the money is with people who are brand new to the whole idea of making money online.

Always try to use some images when necessary. Some simple money images, nice cars, PROOF, or even a picture of someone happy will greatly increase conversions throughout all your advertising. Always be nice and sincere. Also, you should really only write on ad to post in multiple places so that you can simply copy/paste everywhere you go. Then when you get to Usfreeads and start making multiple ads, save all of them in a text file inside a folder so that you can rotate thru your ads throughout all the sites. This is where the speed and simplicity come into play. If you don’t do these things right then you are likely to come back and bitch later that it doesn’t work. It does work, and it allows you to jump into some of the most competitive niches out there with very little cost and hardly any work after initial setup.

So just think about the possibilites of a mortgage review page or even a weight loss review page. Getting a free ebook or quickly grabbing some articles and making one yourself would be a great primer to start acquiring leads at rapid speed utilizing these free and low cost methods. I hope you see the possibilities here and I hope you start implementing them because tomorrow I am going to reveal the final part of this large method on how to reinvest your profits to have your ads, optin forms, and squeeze pages work on autopilot for very little cost each month.

Stay tuned, Part 3 will follow tomorrow and it will be more aggressive.


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82 Responses

December 5, 2007

Hmm…

Interesting, you are involved in the IM niche a lot now looks like… this Income For Beginners thing looks alright and the system looks solid, thanks for the sweet tips Ruck as always.

I am curios as well what do you use as offers in your autoresponder to follow up to these IM for newbies prospects. I have some nice CPA ideas myself and maybe I am just guessing but PayDotCom and ClickBank products is what you are mostly promoting to these IM lists.

Good thinking, I dont know why I havn’t been in a lot in this niche so far in my progress, but after reading these gems, I think its time to start building a massive IM niche list and suck it dry.

As Always Keep it Up Ruck

PS… you forgot to mention Vancouver Kijiji, but I will be working at that now since you said that and if you didnt know Vancouver has a very high online rate for people and that Canada is the most highly percentaged online country [per capita] in the world. [higher percentage than US so that was a nice tip, but Gumtree still oddly gets more traffic, with Alexa 1000 something and kijiji.ca only is an Alexa 1500]

Cheers!


December 5, 2007
Ruck

Yea,

There are a lot of cities in Canada to utilize this with and their are probably even more classified ads site to use this with at free or very low cost. I am trying to keep the method as simple as possible but what I should mention is that Ebay will kick the crap out of everything else added together. I can’t express the importance of using ebay with this.

My involvement with the IM niche is getting deeper, however with this method the furthest extent it has gone to so far is the intital setup, implementation, list building and front end profits from allowing people to purchase the ebooks thru rebranding.

If your selling resell rights you need to make sure that the rights are actually Master Resell allowing you to grant others the ability to resell as well. You could go blackhat and just not care, but it has been far simpler for me to just buy a book I could rebrand as my own. This allows me to not deal with any questions as they deal with the ebook author directly.

The keys are speed and to maintain the list. Run your ads and sending emails after you have built the list is the only maintenance I will do. I have way to many other things to handle but sending emails out to thousands is not to much burden on me :)

As far as primers and other offers to send your email list, I can give you 3 CPA’s that convert better than any others I have tried. Casey Soft Lead, Project Payday and Beach Bum System without a doubt have made me the most money.

I was thinking about after the third part tomorrow that I would allow the blog readers to see a squeeze page I use, and a few classified ads so they would have more general idea. I realize not everyone will be accustomed to this or familiar but with the simplicity it takes to do this, I am more than willing to give a followup play by play on friday with live examples.

Also, this is not an Internet Marketing list really. IMO I would consider that to be to people who are somewhat familiar with the idea of marketing online. I much rather go after the group beneath them (which is MUCH larger) who are confused as where to start. They are a lot easier to sell to.

The problem with selling to them is it is just like in the traffic exchanges. You aren’t going to do very well selling there, so preselling is the key. Giving away free information with backend embedded products is vital to making this a success.

BTW– the sole purpose of Income4beginners is to give it away. I am hoping of course nobody looks at this as a product recommendation. You are far ahead of that by now probably. This is basically the product I have purchased rebranding rights to and give away because it works so well. So you can download for free of course and look thru it and whatnot but the only purpose it serves me is being a primer.


December 5, 2007

Fuck dude you always blow away my expectations.

Thanks for the CPA offers to the lists.

Those Casey Soft stuff and those others are all at Rocket Profits eh? Lol, yeah eh!

Dude Ruck seriously dude, this is one of my favorite BlackHat blogs.

But remember this, I will always be on RJ forum before you and even though you got 10 times as many posts as me.

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Also, this is not an Internet Marketing list really. IMO I would consider that to be to people who are somewhat familiar with the idea of marketing online. I much rather go after the group beneath them (which is MUCH larger) who are confused as where to start. They are a lot easier to sell to.

Dude, that makes no sense, they either want to make money online or they dont. How do you know how stupid they are?

Lol.. I’m just kidding you know it buddy, and you are prolly the only one that can take my jokes… or else someone else will cry and have to apologize to me or something or cry.

Lmao you know I’m kidding right?

Of course.

Anyways I got get response and am thinking of switching to Aweber, but I am not too sure but correct me if I am wrong but doesn’t Get Response have a 10% Guarantee inbox delivery rate?

I believe Aweber doesn’t have the BALLS to do that.

I like Get Response, cuz you know what!? They have what you call Cahunahs?

They got Cahunas.

I like that.

Income 4 Beginners is to give away… good to be double confirmed there bud… some of us get it the first time, but I will let you go. LMAO. Forget about it.

So you dont promote PayDotCom and ClickBank products to this list… its hard to believe that… but buds you got so many secrets [it looks like, its hard to tell when you are jokin or not]


December 5, 2007
Ruck

Yea,

I believe GetResponse still has the single optin right? Aweber is double optin no matter what now, so the confirm your email is a vital option but other than that I haven’t faced any problems with email delivery. I would suspect GetResponse being just as good as Aweber.

No I have not promoted any Paydotcom or clickbank to the list. I probably will in the future but those offers that I just talked about are great because they all offer free information or at least pay you on another email submit. They convert really well for me.

Um, I don’t use ROI Rocket for these offers. I along with my partner have my ROI Rocket account tied up to a couple of sites we own so I pull the offers from the hydra network and Copeac. My affiliate manager is really cool with me and I have been really upfront about the offers and how I email them so I just stick with Hydra on this.

You can glance around for these offers on a few networks as they are spread around quite a bit but I am getting good payouts on the volume so I just stick with them for now.

Honestly though, no products from Paydotcom or clickbank have gone to these lists. Some of the books other than Income4Beginners which has products in it that when you rebrand you can make commissions off of already have products in them and I have gotten a few sales from them but not very many. I really like to mail HTML creatives for Pay per lead offers, they seem to be the best for me.

Tons of possibilities to do though. In all actuality I probably am missing out by not promoting a CB or PDC product, but maybe eventually.


December 5, 2007

You should really test that if you got big enough numbers of opt-ins to do so.


December 6, 2007

Hey Ruck, this is some great info. Thanks so much for sharing it with us.


December 6, 2007

This is probably the best post I’ve ever read. Great stuff Ruck. Btw when you mention USfreeads went down alot, you meant google rankings?


December 6, 2007
Ruck

Yea,

I believe their Pagerank went from 5 to a 2. I could be wrong but I noticed a huge drop.


December 6, 2007

Just curious, have you ever tried this on Craigslist or will it be considered SPAM? If so wouldn’t it still be up until it was removed?

It is afterall a classified site.


December 6, 2007

oops nevermind – I just got a little triggerhappy and was halfway through reading and said, “Gee I wonder if he tried this on craigslist.”

Apparently I um… Nevermind.


December 6, 2007

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“Do not spam, but kindly let people know about the free ebook you got for beginners online.”

So Im probably jumping the Gun. If Im letting the people on yahoo Answers know about my free ebook and giving them a link to it in my answer, how then does it happen that I get my account suspended? Because, it just did… :)

Im really one of those trial and error guys so If I like an Idea im ON IT. You can ask any of the women I know.

Apparently though in this case (as you can see by the eagerness of asking questions before actually awaiting an answer that was to come two minutes later) my being on it didn’t pay off as planned.

Im assuming just putting my link Anywhere in the answer is considered SPAM? Or was it that i answered too many answers too quickly?

Or am I completely clueless as to why my account was suspended?


December 6, 2007

Ruck,

I’m still very green in IM, so far i have read part 1 and part 2, i’m still able to understand so far. :) looking forward to part 3.

For a newbie, what would be a good niche to start with? i’m good at learning how to make money ( havent made much so far :) )
but is making money online niche saturated?
or should i pick a different niche, even thou i’m not comfortable with a different niche?

Appreciate your comments on this.

tyler


December 6, 2007
Ruck

Hi Tyler,

See this is the beauty of this method. It doesn’t really rely on you being a super knowitall in the money making niche.

Essentially this was going to be 3 parts, but you should I have received about 60 emails today on these methods and everybody is waiting on part 3 to get start.

Fortunately there will be some more experienced marketers that can take this and run, but I am going to add a couple valuable resources to this and will walk you thru it step by step.

As long as you got an autoresponder, and a hosting account, domain, I will be able to help you rather smoothly. Still if you do not have these things send me an email and I would be happy to answer any specifics you may have.


December 6, 2007
Harry

Ruck

Is there a direct link to ebay classifieds?

Cant seem to find it.

Thanks


December 6, 2007
Ruck

Hi Harry,

You will setup your classifed just like you would an auction. It is found in the listing section just labeled “Classified”.


December 6, 2007
Dave

Ruck, thanks for the great info. Does USfreeads not bother you if you post the same ad 50x wth different headlines? I know it says different in their TOS but do they enforce it?


December 6, 2007
Ruck

Hi Dave,

I have never had a problem but I do however tend to mix it up a bit with about every 5 ads. A nice trick is when you change your title to adapt your copy right quick to coincide with your title.


December 6, 2007

Hi Ruck,

Thank you for your response, i’ll be following this series closely :)

tyler


December 6, 2007

Hi Ruck,

Found your blog last week and I’m well impressed. It’s refreshing to see someone who knows what they’re doing and helping the rest of us.

I’ve just bought the rights to income4beginners and I’m going to start by offering it to my existing list.

One question though, re ebay. The marketing tips portion of the income4beginners site says:

“Important! Under No Circumstances are you to advertise your Link On Ebay! You will get in trouble for doing so, and will have your account disabled! This is because you HAVE to give the ebook away for free, and Ebay insist you put a price on it for auction.”

Any comments on this? Ways to get around it? I already sell an ebook on ebay so I could embed an ad in that listing. Or is it OK to use Classified ads for free stuff. I’ve seen others doing it, so it must be possible.

Congrats again on an outstanding blog.


December 6, 2007
Nick Flame

Hi Ruck,

So the idea with income4beginners is that we get for each sale 40$ directly into our paypal account? (after purchasing master resell rights, obviously)
Seems to be good to be true. Any catch that i did not get it?


December 6, 2007

“Important! Under No Circumstances are you to advertise your Link On Ebay! You will get in trouble for doing so, and will have your account disabled! This is because you HAVE to give the ebook away for free, and Ebay insist you put a price on it for auction.”

Im sure Ruck can answer this, but IMO I do EBAY selling – Where you will get into trouble is Auctioning the book for profit.

I think Ruck is talking about making a classified ad to give away the book for free. There is a difference. EBAY classifieds are for anything, like classifieds in your own local Newspaper. They are not meant to necessarily generate income so I do not think this is the same thing.

Actually in essence you would be spending $20 for a month of giving away the book for free. You just cant auction it – even for a BUY IT NOW price of 1 cent. :)


December 6, 2007
Ruck

@HugePedlar — Your not selling on Ebay. The rights with I4B is that you can give it away. That is what the Ebay classified is. I list it at a penny but always mention free download in my headline. And you redirecting them to the ebook via your link thru your autoresponder, so they wouldn’t know it’s on ebay, but I assure you with this method, your perfectly fine.

@ Nick — No catch Nick. If there was, I would have posted it. That’s why the tactic is so easy. To give you a better idea, go download the book for free and put yourself back at the beginning, at the very first when you started out and see how you feel at the end of the book. See if that little hook at the end would have got you.

$40 gets you branding rights. You cannot sell this book according to rights, you can only sell it. By rebranding it, when someone else wants to rebrand and give it away to make that $40, you will make $40 because they are paying thru your link.

@Geese — And Everyone else. I do not understand what the problem is. It’s an Ebay Classified ad, if I knew something that work better there, I would have wrote it down. Follow closely if your unfamiliar waters or your likely to get burned before you started.

Also on Yahoo Answers. You need to provide quality filled answers that are coherent and linked to the source with your link. I have over 200 accounts now and some brand new snazzy software and I have yet to get an account banned at 20 answers a day per account.

BTW — Is someone having a problem with the book on Ebay? Nowhere in your ad should you mention the book. Your ad is the squeeze page, your only goal on your squeeze page is to have someone optin and then receive the book. Kind of like a ninja :)


December 6, 2007

:) No no. I wasnt asking about EBAY – I was trying to answer someone elses question from my own experience. I have NO worries at this point.

As far as Yahoo;
When I did Yahoo answers I was putting up the link to my ebook. Each answer was written differently and tailored uniquely to each specific question. I was linking it straight to the Download page like you suggested in the article. However It may have been the fact that I was simply talking about the ebook and not actually giving an answer. What I am getting though is that perhaps I am not supposed to say, “hey I got this ebook that explains it.” but maybe just talk about making money online and then link it to my ebook? I’ll try it out a bit until tonight.

If (tonight) you would like to do a 5 minute Yahoo Answers Explanation with maybe a live example of how you do it I would Send you my first $40 I made from yahoo answers. :)

(I know its not much to someone that can shit $20 bills but still it would be my way of saying thanks.) ;p


December 6, 2007

Thanks Ruck, that does make sense – though I actually meant ‘would *ebay* have a problem with giving out a free product’, on the basis that they wouldn’t get their final value fee. I understand the author requires the book to be given out free and that’s fine. The 1p classified with opt-in box is a good idea so I’ll probably go with that.

Forgive me for sounding thick, but what did you mean by ‘Nowhere in your ad should you mention the book’? I was planning on writing an ebay classified with the title ‘Free Online Marketing Course with bonus ebook’ or something like that. Then have the aweber form in the body of the listing. Is that not the way to go?

One more thing, just as an aside… Stop mentioning Gumtree – that’s MY realm! ;-) No that’s ok, but just in case people are having trouble posting there, they’ve started upgrading their anti-spam tools and it’s getting a LOT harder to put ads up. I made about £650 last month (about $1300) just from gumtree, but I’m really struggling this month to keep my ads on. It used to be that mine were the only ads kept up after mass deletions, but now they’re starting to work out what I do. Bugger.

Anyway, thanks for the reply. Keep up the good work.


December 6, 2007
Ruck

@Geese — Have you downloaded my Yahoo Answers report in the Free Ruck Reports? If not, then do so and also the way you have typed here leads me to believe that your answer was indeed promotional. This simply will not do, nor can have a straight link to the book. I mentioned cloaking it or redirecting it thru a domain so the link looks like a pretty website link in Answers.

Cater to your people asking questions and answer the question. Link to the source. Nothing else.

@ HugePedlar, No not all. When I read the ebay guidelines for classified ads, it basically reads as any other classified ads site, which is so cool for us. We can acquire a good amount of leads with this tactic and it doesn’t harm Ebay or its users in any way.

When I say to not mention the book, I mean exactly to not mention the title “income4beginners”, your ad (squeeze) should be a preseller telling them only enough that they don’t know what it is exactly but they have to have it.

I have not had any problems with Gumtree so I don’t know what your method is. But when you mention “mass deletions” I can only assume that your working on an elevated level of posting a lot of ads. The cool thing about this tactic is to post consistently to the sites I have listed and we won’t have to mass post to the sites.

You could leave gumtree out altogether and make some good change with only focusing on Ebay.


December 6, 2007

Cool, thanks Ruck. That’s what I hoped.

Yes, I’m afraid I have been guilty of mass posting to gumtree – trouble is it’s so lucrative. Now that I’ve found some other classified sites it shouldn’t be a problem, as you say.

BTW, I incorporated my opt-in form onto one of my existing ebay ads for my own ebook just now… and literally less than ten minutes later I already have a subscriber. Cool, huh!


December 6, 2007
Ruck

Ahh man that is great news! I am trying to get everyone on the bandwagon here and start building some email lists so that they have one touch profits (as I like to say) It’s a vital part of business online.

It can’t all be about that next cool blackhat tactic, we got to have residual businesses to rely on for the long haul as well, and this is one of the easiest to build at very low cost.

Congrats on that subscriber!


December 6, 2007

Im on it!


December 6, 2007
Harry

Hi Ruck

I just tried adding my aweber opt in on the ebay classifieds howere it came up with this

“Please provide the correct information in the highlighted fields.

* Description – Your listing cannot contain javascript (“.cookie”, “cookie(“, “replace(“, IFRAME, META, or includes), cookies or base href.”

Please how do I get around this?

My aweber link is “”

Please help

Thanks


December 6, 2007
Harry

Oops,

Here is my aweber link. Dont know why it didnt come up in my previous post


December 6, 2007

I believe you have the option of using a javascript snippet for your form code or plain html. Use the html and it should be fine.


December 6, 2007
Harry

Thanks buddy


December 6, 2007
Ruck

Yes,

HTML. Also be sure your in HTML when you post the code. It will look funky when you hit the standard button but review your listing before posting and it should show up normally.


December 7, 2007

Hey – I got a question – Anyone with experience in this feel free to answer.

I got 2 people who have written me messages with their phone number. How should I handle this? Should I call them or is that a bad idea?


December 7, 2007
Ruck

Uhh,

I never had this happen to me once dude and I have had tons of ads. I would suggest do what your comfortable with, I probably would not do it. Umm, is your Squeeze and optin working alright? Why do they want to call you?


December 7, 2007

I dunno. Through EBAY they can send a Message to the Seller or Ad Hoster.

The other is from Backpage.com
“hi my name is ***** i looking to work from home can you call me at 8*********cst are ty have a good day asap”

This isn’t very good english and since the Ad was placed in my home city and the area code is different I gotta wonder if this is some guy from Korea trying to run a scam – or a kid.

On Backpage I suppose I didn’t use the right email. As a matter of fact I need to double check a couple things. – And My squeeze is working right because I have some leads growing in my aweber. Still Im gonna double check to be sure.


December 8, 2007
Ruck

Geese,

great news on the leads man! You move fast, and that’s so great to see. As far as backpage man, you should be using your Gmail Autoresponder and sending them to a squeeze page. Or that’s how I have done it. If they message you though, you could fire a few points out about the book, and remind them that it is free.


December 8, 2007

Ok so Here’s the deal. So I have 2 EBAY Ads running. I put about 30 ads on Usfreeads of different types. Some the nomal Squeeze page you gave. Some are kinda like the Rich Jerk way of telling someone that they should go to some other ad and another is just silly i.e. “My dog has more money than you – Here’s FREE info why.”

Im getting some leads – at this point like 19 of them. I have 6 or so verified. NO Sales.

Im sure this is just me being impatient – but I want to Superfly charge this process. What Can I do?

I got the time. I have the energy and the will. I want to step this up to phase 3 starting by Monday but until I see my foundation working all proper like I can’t do it. I dont even have a proper Host and Domain becuse I don’t want to take the money out of my own pocket quite yet.

I really want to stick to sites that are free and accept HTML so I can use my squeeze page right in the ad. That leaves out craigslist.

I do have some interesting news. I put a few ads on Usfreeads – in the Business Opportunity section they double your ads and place them on Bizwiz. I have got more responses from Bizwiz than I did from Usfreeads. Also Usfree ads is my lowest response – I got more from less ads on backpage.com as well.

Any hints? Should I just go crazy with putting ads up everywhere?


December 8, 2007

PS when you say 12 sales a week – THATS what I want!


December 8, 2007

did you go for the premium subscription on USfreeads?


December 8, 2007

also, how many views are you getting? If you not getting many it may be your title isn’t good enough.


December 8, 2007

Ruck. just to get an idea, on average on how many leads you are getting using ebay per month?


December 8, 2007
Ruck

I couldn’t tell you how many leads come directly from Ebay. I can tell you that I spoke about how much I am spending on Ebay and it’s quite a lot, but I didn’t want to mention it and have people go balls out until they got an ad that converts.

In my experience it’s only been a few days since the posting and already questions are being asked. This is the “60 days to list building domination” and it’s a set course to follow thru with consistently.

And yes Geese, post your ads up everywhere. As for Ebay if your not getting many views you can always revise your listing to include more categories. Here’s a list of categories I go off of and test out with new ads.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/adformatfees.html

Like everything, your going to have to put up some of your own spin on the technique. There’s probably a site out there right now that some will probably find and make a killing from.

Geese –In your autoresponder you should follow up automatically for now with a 2nd message like 2 days later outlining the benefits of people purchasing the resale rights and making $40 a sale.

Get creative. The volume is enough for all of us to share.

Another thing is that if you make your titles good, it is way to early to see any Search Traffic as well. I know we all want to go hard, but that is not really the point of the method here. Stay consistent and within your budget as much as you can, and trim the time down posting ads to as less as possible and this should open up more time to go post in other sites you may find.


December 8, 2007

Yes, I would also like to add that the purpose of this course, as I see it, is to build up a mailing list. Any sales you get from the ebook are essentially a bonus… your main objective is to obtain a targeted list of subscribers who will respond to your promotions in the future. I think it’s easy to lose sight of that in the rush to get your targets to purchase this first ebook off you. It’s exactly what I keep telling myself not to fall for. Think long term!


December 8, 2007
mo

great stuff man. i will keep u posted on my iminet success with this. question though, how many views would you cay are good? i put up a ad yesturday and its been running for 20 hours and ive only gotten 145 views, what is a good number of views to go for? from your experience of course


December 8, 2007
Ruck

I’ve seen some with less than a hundred views but couldn’t tell you my optins really so I use the methods so widespread, and to tell you the truth man I don’t even put a counter on mine.

But 20 hours way to short to tell. Did you get any optins yet? Also, I put up a new post today on how to revise your listing and add more categories that accept ads. Do them all, and dominate.

Also, you live and die by your post title.


December 9, 2007

just signed up to USfreeads, by slightly confused in how they sort their listings. In the display options as default, I see older listings being above mine


December 9, 2007

my ebay hits – 212 and 194 per ad.

The ads are getting hits.

21 total optins if thats what people filling out the form is (so I get their email) but then they have to verify and only 6 at this point did. So I cant actually send out emails to the unverified from aweber right? Or can I – I went out to do my work today but none of the F—ing coffee shops had working connections so I got nothing done (like watching AWEBER videos so I know that thing). Im thinking about working this tonight but my buddy want to go to the mall – maybe after.
Still – I suppose I will just go haywire on the ads. If 21 people downloaded the book out of the facts and figures I sent is that good or is it CRAP?

Anyways you talked about being the poster boy of guys who dont know the computer technical end and still did well – I am probably the poster boy of NOOBness.


December 9, 2007
Ruck

Yea,

@ rare pennies — Not sure, I use Usfreeads as more of a spamming weapon meaning I set up ads as much as I can and fast as I can. The cool thing about them is that even if you get low signups it’s less than 10 dollars a month and you could very well have thousands of ads within a few months. Some will get search rankings and that’s just butter.

@geese — You have started man, now just look at the ebay tips for revising your ad. This is like everything else on the net and since it’s your first time this will require a few tweaks here and there.

Ya’ll are moving a lot faster than I expected though and keep the questions rolling. The main thing here is to not focus so much on the money and downloads. Continually put up ads and watch the ones your paying for. You could go all out and revise for all category listings if you wanted to that allow it.

I have to keep stressing to build. I know some may get tired of it, but for anyone that has ever made money or done methods I have described successfully, you have to continually build for that snowball effect. You have 2 months for total annihilation for this type of list building method, and I am here everyday to help but for you to be successful I need you to keep the pace your using now, because I am truly ecstatic that some of you are moving so fast.


December 9, 2007
mo

i here ya man, my first ad on ebay had a few hits on it and i thought that it was not fast enough so i went in and tweaked my heading a little bit and changed my picture. instead of a generic money picture (which is like all the others out there) i opted to use a nice girl next door type of photo (not the super model type) but the “real” type that is kind of hot. she immediately started pulling in quick hits. I am monitoring this ad and will update you on the progress. Before my recent changes i already have 12 verified opt ins and a bunch of none verified ones.

I have 25 ads running right now in various places on usfreeads and some more on the other sites ou mentioned. i know i should see more activity soon and the money will be coming. i look to dominate this thing in ’60 days’… i think this is the big thing we should all remember. its a 60 day for domination so if i keep building at this rate i should have hundreds (if not thousand) of ads out there and with your help we will hit this thing out of the park.

thanks for your daily tips man. now i have to add my diff3erent categories on ebay and use the crap out of that place.

man and this is only for one niche right now. i have been looking and i have about 6 other niches i want to do this in. (so now i gotta get my paki guys to do some of my grunt work)

good stuff everyone, keep hittn it and ask the questions. when u ask a question, we all get to learn the answers and it helps us all…


December 9, 2007
Ruck

your moving incredibly fast Mo, great to here. The clicks, signups and sales will come dude. I didn’t spill my guts the last 4 days writing out methods I use daily to get a lot of free and low cost signups for nothing :)


December 9, 2007
mo

hehe, i may have moved too fast on the usfreeads part. (i did all those 25 ads in one sitting this morning) and now i come back to check and see how the views are going and i only have 2 that are live. the other 23 have been disapproved.

I will need to read on it and see why they were disapproved. Maybe they checked my submissions and saw that they were for a ebook. dont know but i will place some more now ut in different categories and see which ones are sticking.

thanks Ruck, like i said before, im gonna be right on your tail man. tryin to set this thing up big and then multiply the crap out of it


December 9, 2007
Ruck

Ahh yes,

Do not forget the Gmail autoresponder tactics as well on other sites. If you dont have a squeeze page you could cloak or redirect a link for the time being or even put the affiliate link in the gmail autoresponder. I don’t know what type of results you will get doing it like that though. Some teaser copy goes a long way.


December 9, 2007

Hey. Whats the rules on using a well known products picture (ie. of their logo) as a picture in my ad? I’ll tell you what I mean. The Secret. Ive been using that as a catch phrase in a few of my ads as in, “The Secret to Making Cash FAST – FREE Info” or something along those lines. I mean The title is fine Im sure but If I can use the logo That would be great.


December 9, 2007

hey – I just though of something else probably off topic. Maybe not. But I get a bunch of those Chain Mails from Friends and my mom. Is there a way to utilise those mails that are in them EFFECTIVELY? I don’t want to bother Spamming ppl unless theres a good method – because essentially they are already spamming me – sort of.


December 9, 2007
mo

cool, Ruck, I got a few ads up on kijiji and im using the gmail tactic with those. i will be hitting gumtree, backpage, and adpost tomorrow.

in regards to usfreeads, what do u recommend is a safe amount of ads to put up at one time? i there a number that triggers them and causes them to check on you r ads you post? i noticed that there was a notice that said they do not want to see aff links, ebooks or other thing advertised there. Im still gonna do it but waswondering if u already knew what the limits were.


December 9, 2007

Hey Ruck,

Bought the resale rights from the ebook. Got 3 ads up in ebay and 5 in us leads so far.

Haven’t really gotten to many optins, I am thinking it has something to do with with biz types, custom fields. I am not seeing some of the categories you had.

Could you explain what to put in the those fields for the make money online ebook scenario.

thanks,

Derek


December 9, 2007
Ruck

Yep,

Just go here:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/adformatfees.html

And start adding categories like crazy. One thing I should note is that I seen some people who bought the resale rights to the book are basically just advertising with the copy from the ebook. Umm, let me know how that turns out, but I bet I can guess.


December 10, 2007

do you think its a good idea to add you tube videos to your listings like this one for example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=venDrFWW6Qo


December 10, 2007
Ruck

Never done it. I gave my exact methods of what I do. I have seen it and I was thinking though, if I did a really true video, I would expect my conversion optin rate to soar.


December 10, 2007

I havent made a Dime yet but this is Fun for some reason. I just Maxxed out my daily ads on Kijijijijiijijijijiji. Now Im gonna juice the US again But not the UsFreeads – I did a bunch of those.


December 10, 2007

PS – The Ad that has the most hits besides the one I have featured on USFREEADS is Titled:

“FREE Ebook – Why You’re Broke and My Dog is NOT!”


December 10, 2007
Ruck

Catchy title Geese. Unfortunately, I see a lot of ads over at Ebay with some horrible copy, hopefully that is not any of us, because I wouldn’t expect to get much from them.


December 10, 2007
Ruck

No need to show your ads geese. You know to contact me personally bro if you want help :)


December 10, 2007

Paydirt! My first $40 is in the mail.


December 10, 2007
Ruck

Awe!

Geese man, so proud of you dude. We were just talking this evening. Hey if possible man, would you mind sending me a short testimonial over to
ruck @ cashtactics.net

Man I would truly appreciate it bro. Look how fast you come along dude. You said you were pretty new and you had enough trust to take the methods and apply yourself and now look what happened. It will only get better from here man!


December 10, 2007

Got a sale Ruck. Thanks again.


December 10, 2007
Ruck

You got one too? AWESOME. If you wouldn’t mind could you possibly shoot me an email as well with a short testimonial? It won’t be going on a product or anything like that but would love to blog about it!


December 10, 2007

Yes pretty cool. I had about 300 views already on my ads. Not very many optins. I really need to change my squeeze page tonite. I will keep you posted.

Do you happen to have a compiled list of places to put these ads?

I really want to go balls once I get a squeeze that converts well.

thanks

Derek


December 12, 2007
mo

whatsssssup? Hey Big Dawg Ruck, I just wanted to hop in here and let you know how i was doin. I just checked my stuff again and i got 3 sales. good stuff man… im already in the black with this project and its only been like 3 or 4 days. i got like 300 something views on the ad so that brings my ebay cost to about .08 per click and with a return of $120 not bad… i am tweaking some stuff on the ads i got up on usfree ads and i must admit, i got busy and didnt even hit up gumtree yet. tonight i put up some ads on kijiji and adpost. i will work on gumtree and backpage tomorrow. as soon as i get the feel for all those sites right there (in the next few days) then im gonna just keep tweakin and see how things take off. now i find myself looking for some probable products i can use this same model for in different niches… thanks for this series man, i needed it bad man (as u know). ill hit u later man.

peace (holla at yo boy man)


December 12, 2007
Ruck

Damn Mo,

That’s awesome man! There is another product that you can rebrand called Harvey Segal’s Ultimate Supertip. I have done well with it as well. You would be getting automatic $10 payments to paypal with it as well.

Try to find it or hit me up on IM later today and I can hook you up.


December 12, 2007

I’ll be honest – I have 1 sale and up until today I have had pretty $hit optins. See here’s the deal, though – I am an inexperienced NOOB, and Ruck has been more than willing to help me out with my questions.

I am actually applying the advice he gives and Today I have already Surpassed my verified Opt-ins which at the most was 4 on a given day. Today at 4:57 est I have 8 (in one day) and I am just 1 off of my recort of total leads. Ruck gave me advice to make sure that more of the unverified leads would convert to verified. Its working.

Money? Not so much – BUT – as Ruck said this is List Building. And now I am building my list slowly but surely – (and now much faster than I was.) Im going to launch a followup campaign to convert people to cash sales.

This takes effort to do these things but if someone is willing to follow the advice and act upon the advice Im sure said person will be pleased with the results.

P.S. This is fun, kinda like some sort of strategy game. Oh and if you are an auctioneer much like I am and use something in your ads that lets the crapload of people who view your ads see what else you are selling thats FREE advertising for your other auction items. I found that out by accident. :)

Anyways – Time to go Destroy some Free Classified site with advertisements. ;p Im trying to see how much I can get away with before they kick me in the ass. =oD


December 13, 2007

Just an FYI for everybody. I noticed Paypal removed the payment option for the Income 4 Beginners Ebook. Make sure you have your alert pay setup.

Derek


December 13, 2007

I read this: and I wasnt sure what the deal was if it was true or not.

“I have been doing Income4beginners for 2 week and guess what? PayPal closed my account for violation of terms and conditions regarding “get rich quick” schemes!”

http://www.work-at-home-forum.com/14_4951_2.html

IMO maybe its because this thing has become so flooded. Anyone having any problems yet?


December 13, 2007

how do I remove the link from paypal?


December 13, 2007

Derek: Nobody has even heard of alert pay before, well not me anyway. Unless its paypal I dont think this income4beginners will work anymore. You are better off finding another brandable product or get ebooks with affiliate links.


December 14, 2007
Ruck

Wow this is nuts. I just got home from the grocery store and am reading this over. I have no idea why they would do this. Something would have had them to trigger it.

There are tons more ebooks you can rebrand out there. I know I have used HArvey Segal’s Ultimate SuperTip with success before but it’s only a $10 payout. It may work better, it may not. I personally loved the $40 payouts, and now I have so many ads to edit tonight, that it’s unreal.

As far as people getting their accounts banned, they were probably stupid. Anyone that sells thru Paypal heavily has a Representative that they can contact.

I know in April alone Greg and I had to make 6 withdrawals total just to get all our money in our bank accounts. Paypal at the time limited people to 10K per withdrawal, so we got in contact with them and now stay very communicative with them.

We really cannot afford a freeze so we have business accounts and we explain very clearly that we are product owners as well as affiliate marketers.

If anyone would like some rebranded books, I be glad to get some this weekend. I have a way of acquiring a lot of ebooks fast and I have my own personal rebrander as well.

Also, at anytime granted I can get to, I can open any ebook and edit it with your links. We just keep that between us though :)


December 14, 2007

yea sure. please do


December 14, 2007
Ruck

Here are a pack of 6 products. I have bought these outright and I do have the rights to give them away, so why not do it all at once.

Products:
1. Affiliate Marketing
2. Article Marketing
3. Optin List Building
4. PPC Marketing
5. Pursuing Wealth
6. Ebay

http://cashtactics.net/recommends/6rebrandable.zip

Good package and someone might as well use it. I have yet to do so, but now that my main newbie primer is gone, I’m gonna have to check them out. They all come with the branding tools, instructions and I think 2 unadvertised bonuses.

I know a lot of ebooks are worthless but these are great if you can get into the right spots. With these at least we wont have 20 of us in Aby fighting each other for classified ads spots. I looked at it last night and wanted to punch the monitor… :)


December 14, 2007

Great! you’re a gem Ruck


December 14, 2007
Ruck

Hey no probs. Hopefully by tomorrow I can thru all 6 reports and try to find one geared towards new marketers. That’s really the whole goal and easiest way to get subscribers is going after the new people.