23 Comments

Chunkles Said,
March 13th, 2008 @9:50 pm  

Guess I’ll need to bite the bullet and go international. I’ve been avoiding it for exactly the reason you said … comfort-zone. I have had moderate success with my affiliate sites on Yahoo as opposed to Google. Much less hassle than Google regarding approvals with display URLs, but a clunkier interface (and they tend to blow past my daily budget quite frequently)

March 13th, 2008 @10:03 pm  

Make that two declinees, Ruck - I got declined from CPAE a couple of days ago (after waiting two weeks for a response). I fired off an email straight back asking why and if I can do anything; no response yet. I’d have phoned if it wasn’t an international call, but I’m tight.

March 13th, 2008 @10:06 pm  

Can’t wait for the next post about getting email/zips approved so I can start something up!

Thanks again Ruck. This is incredible stuff.

caycole Said,
March 13th, 2008 @10:33 pm  

Heh I looked at CPA Empire’s LONG list of UK offers and thought…”huh, what can I do with this?!”

Pretty good planning there, Mr. Ruck.

caycole Said,
March 14th, 2008 @3:11 am  

Also, thank you for all of the work that went into this post…the links, the pdf upload etc. I really enjoyed going back and forth to read older posts and linked pages. Definitely helped provide context.

March 14th, 2008 @4:18 am  

Good tips on PayPal payments from the aff. network and paying Yahoo with PayPal. It’s such a pain to keep a working campaign funded when paying with a CC and having to wait for the check to pay off the CC. I had a sweet campaign going on FaceBook and maxed out the CC. I had to take my ad down for a minute to get more funds and someone jumped in and duplicated it!
I actually managed to get the PayPal debit card (MasterCard) awhile back even though I’m in Canada. (I think they stopped giving to Canadians now)…so, I actually use my PayPal account as a MasterCard even if the company accepts PayPal cause when using it as a CC you get a small cash back.
I just need to join some more networks that pay by PayPal. I haven’t heard back from CPA Empire yet. I followed your link to sign up.
Also, good tips on the type of traffic you get from Yahoo.
Great series so far.

March 14th, 2008 @4:19 am  

486 readers eh I just noticed??? Good job!

Andrew Said,
March 14th, 2008 @5:04 am  

Does Yahoo have different rules for advertisers internationally? They allow email and zips abroad?

I ask this because you mentioned email and zips are a no-no on Yahoo…

Ruck Said,
March 14th, 2008 @5:47 am  

@ Andrew - Not really changed rules but they are very against email and zip submits. You can try framing an offer but a manual review will likely get it taken it down. Best bet is landing pages which I will be going into next.

imprincess Said,
March 14th, 2008 @7:12 am  

Another awesome post, Ruck! Good news for us…I got my APPROVAL for CPA Empire! For others waiting on their application, you should know I got a rejection email from CPA Empire (I think it may have been auto generated after 1 week, not sure - we’ve heard the network is swamped). I followed up with them per Ruck’s advice and I’m in baby! SWEET!

I’m feeling adventurous…Yahoo International is calling my name.

dolomite Said,
March 14th, 2008 @4:05 pm  

Yep CPA Empires rocks, been doing business with them since I started this PPC stuff back in January. My affiliate manager Lyric passes on some really good info on which offers converts well and which doesn’t. Been making money with them since I started.

March 15th, 2008 @2:46 pm  

I was denied from cpae about a week ago. I called and left a message. Still no answer.

Chris Said,
March 16th, 2008 @7:22 pm  

Wow, I’m actually really surprised. I tried a few e-mail submits on AdWords over in the UK using Zeitgeist to stay up on trends. It generated NADA…zero, zilch, zippo, NO leads.

Maybe the offers I used just sucked donkey balls.

I’m going to have try again using Yahoo and see how it goes.

Nice tips.

Rip Said,
March 16th, 2008 @11:58 pm  

Hey Ruck,

Just curious if you meant there will never be TOO LITTLE ROOM for all of us (not too much)? You said this:

“There will NEVER be TOO MUCH room for marketers like you and I.”

Ruck Said,
March 17th, 2008 @12:39 am  

Probably,

It’s been a really long and stressful week. I basicly meant that no matter how many people are marketing online, there’s always room for more. There is no saturation in online marketing when the Internet has no limits.

Rip Said,
March 17th, 2008 @1:36 am  

Ok yeah that’s what I thought you meant haha. At least that’s what I was hoping you meant!

March 18th, 2008 @12:33 am  

Ruck,

What match types do you use in Yahoo - do you even tangle with the advanced matching or do you go straight exact match.

I’d go w/ advanced & use negative keywords but those limits on them are not cool at all. Any advice here?

Ruck Said,
March 18th, 2008 @2:17 am  

I like straight exact match. I’ve never been a fan of coming up with negative keyword lists.

chillyd Said,
March 19th, 2008 @8:39 pm  

Ruck–

I guess I haven’t tried International because of the differen’t languages. Are you creating landing pages and writting ads? for each country? Also, when you are linking to an international offer does it translate to their language?

Was never really sure how this worked exactly?

Or are you just creating everything in English?

thanks,

chillyd

Ruck Said,
March 19th, 2008 @9:27 pm  

Yea chilly,

If I do an international offer I just simply building a landing on a dot com. As for translating though, I try to stay in english speaking countries (majority) for cpa. If I get to where I am translating ads and even site text it’s on the retail marketing side of things.

March 20th, 2008 @1:29 am  

Going international is kind of scary, but once you get the hang of it you will wonder why it took you so long.

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