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Denise Said,
March 8th, 2008 @2:20 am  

This is definitely an intensive start. As you go along I am more able to understand better what you are doing. Thanks for taking your time and going through this so thoroughly.

Unfortunately I don’t have a budget for Adwords but following along with what you are doing sure clarifies what I am reading in the forum. I feel more involved with the process with you allowing us to walk through this with you.

Chris Said,
March 8th, 2008 @3:06 am  

OK, my pen is ready. Let’s rock.

March 8th, 2008 @5:17 am  

I see now why an MCC account is handy. Great recap.

Gokarter Said,
March 8th, 2008 @5:38 am  

Ruck speaking of MCC after spending 5 hrs and getting mader then hell I was able to do it tonight in under 5min HAHA got ya beat LMAO .I didn’t do anything different tonight then the other night.OH well guess it was just meant to be tonight.
Dude Hit me up when your free for a sec one night.

Dukey Said,
March 8th, 2008 @11:16 am  

Ruck it’s great that you are starting out this series with what you consider the first steps. It allows us to see just how your mind works when you are starting a campaign. I’m pleased that you are taking the time so everyone is clear on how to correctly start a campaign.

Back in the day when I used to do ppc I always started out with search and this is probably why I went through my budget so quick, along with the fact that I was targeting the wrong keywords looking at your examples.

Thanks to this fantastic ppc tutorial that your sharing I can now see a lot clearer the way to go about ppc and you’re going to save me and everyone else a whole lot of money in the long run.

***** One thing I don’t really understand is if your ads are getting so many impressions and not so many clicks won’t google disable your keywords or does this work differently for the content network.

Thanks bud

Ruck Said,
March 8th, 2008 @6:14 pm  

NAh they wont disable your keywords. I could get the impressions phantom swooping in but that pretty much works like getting keywords disabled. The campaign is usually dead when that happens.

Franklin Said,
March 8th, 2008 @8:39 pm  

Ruck, you rock!

I LOVE this series…..

At the end of the series (may be many weeks from now), would you be so kind to compile everything and put them in a PDF?

Can I give feedbacks and suggestions later on? Or do you already have fixed plans about what you’re going to write?

Take care!

Ruck Said,
March 8th, 2008 @9:16 pm  

Ahh well I probably could put it in a PDF. Probably be a good idea. But yes, Always give your feedback and/or suggestions. You can use the contact me page, forum or just put it in a comment.

Franklin Said,
March 8th, 2008 @11:24 pm  

Thanks for the feedback Ruck!

In an earlier post you said “Typically I set my content budget at $500/day. Now you may not want to do this but as I have stated that their is something unspoken on the content network.”

I agree with you….$500/day is something that definitely most newbies are not willing to go for. After 3 days, that translates to $1500 which is quite a big chunk of money. Plus, it’s a proven fact that out of 10 test campaigns, probably only 1 or 2 will come out as winners, so after many trial and errors, that $1500 could turn to tens of thousands of dollars, and I don’t think any newbies can afford that…
But on the other hand, if we set the budget too low, then we can’t really make educated decisions, just as you mentioned that if we budget below $100/day, the content network won’t yield in many clicks. Yet $100/day still sounds quite a lot? Or?
What do we do then? Test in cheaper engines such as Yahoo perhaps?

Another question: do you manually group keywords, or do you use a certain software to automate it?

March 9th, 2008 @12:46 am  

I have a questions. Franklin’s comment sparked this question in my head. When you do $500 a day starting out. On average… how much of that $500 is actually used up?

Franklin Said,
March 9th, 2008 @1:09 am  

@Collin: I’ve never set a bid that high (I just finished school; can’t afford that yet, lol), but my take is that it would depend on the niche and surely the keywords that you pick. The more competitive they are, the more likely AND quickly the $500 daily budget to be exhausted. In industries such as games, insurance, ringtones and other competitive ones, the $500 probably gets exhausted within a matter of hours! =(

Gokarter Said,
March 9th, 2008 @1:19 am  

@ Franklin I believe Ruck uses a tool call speedppc , now I’m not sure but I do believe it does group the KeyWords. Also I believe you want to set you daily higher to get a more true feel of how that KW will perform,also keep the” impression phantom” out

@Collin all depends how popular the KW you are going after and how many impressions you get on it. So ya possibly you could go threw you daily budget .Keep you eyes on it ,Even if ya pause it it can take a few hours to get it turned off. So if ya have it at 500 and you watching it and it’s near what you really want for your limit then pause it.But then again you might not get a good feel for the KW if it not a keeper or not.

Franklin Said,
March 9th, 2008 @1:44 am  

Thanks Gokarter! I actually have SpeedPPC and it doesn’t actually group the keywords for us. We can choose to let it group 1 keyword per ad group, or to group keywords that we already previously grouped.

What I want is for a tool to accept, say, a list of 100 keywords, and then it automatically returns similar terms in logical groups. So far the only tools that I know can do this are the Google Adwords Editor, and also Rapid Keyword, but they’re not always 100% accurate, so if anyone knows other solution(s), they’re more than welcome to share =).

Ruck Said,
March 9th, 2008 @3:02 am  

@ Franklin and Collin - It would really depend on the keywords and the amount of volume you would bring. Do not fear a $500/day budget because you think you will spend that much. Watch your campaign closely. I’ve made decisions on offers within a half a day.

As far as Yahoo is concerned, I will be saying my peace very soon. But when you setup tests this way like I have shown on the content network, typically it would be irrational to think you would burn thru even a quarter of that by stopping the campaign if your monitoring it. If you lose money like that there is no to blame but ourselves. And having a budget a in the first place is important because honestly, there will be mishaps most likely.

My biggest two mishaps cost me $2100+ and $1400+. The first occured in a 3 day span and the second in a one day span. But Franklin your right about those niches, that can surely happen.

As for SpeedPPC I’ll cover how I use it later. I see what your saying about the keyword groups Franklin. Generally for CPA Offers I dont group this way but I do for retail. I’ll go deeper into my discussion and also reveal a lot more tools as I am sure they will answer a lot of the technical searching and grouping aspects for us.

But for the sake of this series I am only focusing on a small margin payout and am very methodical in longtail keyword groups and domain variations.

eidyggidogon Said,
March 9th, 2008 @3:41 am  

I think this is great. I appreciate it immensely.

suzie Said,
March 10th, 2008 @1:41 am  

Can you please suggest a good PPC tracking software….other than the G/Y/msn default trackings! I don’t know if there is any software which would track conversions without putting a code on the merchants page.

Franklin Said,
March 10th, 2008 @1:56 am  

@suzie: try Xtreme Conversions.
You can try conversions using subIDs…….

Ruck Said,
March 10th, 2008 @2:30 am  

Yea,

Where I am going next relies on tracking but I use PHP. I’ll list what I know is out there but for the most part my tracking is in-house. And actually I like pixels being placed on merchant pages but if you got a dirty merchant then it’s best to be extremely careful on your end.

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