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		<title>By: SkyWatcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>SkyWatcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did i say you Rock? If not then &quot;YOU ROCK&quot;! I like the &quot;CPA Marketing Series&quot;. I learn a lot from it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did i say you Rock? If not then &#8220;YOU ROCK&#8221;! I like the &#8220;CPA Marketing Series&#8221;. I learn a lot from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Hutcherson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Hutcherson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 03:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the detail info.  Looking forward to your discussion/review on tools your tried and the ones you feel work best.

&quot;As for SpeedPPC I’ll cover how I use it later. I see what your saying about the keyword groups Franklin. Generally for CPA Offers I dont group this way but I do for retail. I’ll go deeper into my discussion and also reveal a lot more tools as I am sure they will answer a lot of the technical searching and grouping aspects for us.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the detail info.  Looking forward to your discussion/review on tools your tried and the ones you feel work best.</p>
<p>&#8220;As for SpeedPPC I’ll cover how I use it later. I see what your saying about the keyword groups Franklin. Generally for CPA Offers I dont group this way but I do for retail. I’ll go deeper into my discussion and also reveal a lot more tools as I am sure they will answer a lot of the technical searching and grouping aspects for us.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: CPA Marketing Series - Determining Your Model &#124; Cash Tactics &#124; Ruck's Internet Marketing Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPA Marketing Series - Determining Your Model &#124; Cash Tactics &#124; Ruck's Internet Marketing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve already stated a couple of ways of how I like to get started with offers including the Google Content Network and Yahoo Search Marketing. With that said you should know that there are a lot of other paid [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve already stated a couple of ways of how I like to get started with offers including the Google Content Network and Yahoo Search Marketing. With that said you should know that there are a lot of other paid [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ruck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 02:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea,

Where I am going next relies on tracking but I use PHP. I&#039;ll list what I know is out there but for the most part my tracking is in-house. And actually I like pixels being placed on merchant pages but if you got a  dirty merchant then it&#039;s best to be extremely careful on your end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea,</p>
<p>Where I am going next relies on tracking but I use PHP. I&#8217;ll list what I know is out there but for the most part my tracking is in-house. And actually I like pixels being placed on merchant pages but if you got a  dirty merchant then it&#8217;s best to be extremely careful on your end.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
		<link>http://cashtactics.net/03/08/cpa-marketing-series-recap-and-bidding-strategies.html/comment-page-1#comment-3911</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@suzie: try Xtreme Conversions.
You can try conversions using subIDs.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@suzie: try Xtreme Conversions.<br />
You can try conversions using subIDs&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: suzie</title>
		<link>http://cashtactics.net/03/08/cpa-marketing-series-recap-and-bidding-strategies.html/comment-page-1#comment-3910</link>
		<dc:creator>suzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 01:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you please suggest a good PPC tracking software....other than the G/Y/msn default trackings! I don&#039;t know if there is any software which would track conversions without putting a code on the merchants page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you please suggest a good PPC tracking software&#8230;.other than the G/Y/msn default trackings! I don&#8217;t know if there is any software which would track conversions without putting a code on the merchants page.</p>
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		<title>By: eidyggidogon</title>
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		<dc:creator>eidyggidogon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is great.  I appreciate it immensely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is great.  I appreciate it immensely.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Franklin and Collin - It would really depend on the keywords and the amount of volume you would bring. Do not fear a $500/day budget because you think you will spend that much. Watch your campaign closely. I&#039;ve made decisions on offers within a half a day.

As far as Yahoo is concerned, I will be saying my peace very soon. But when you setup tests this way like I have shown on the content network, typically it would be irrational to think you would burn thru even a quarter of that by stopping the campaign if your monitoring it. If you lose money like that there is no to blame but ourselves. And having a budget a in the first place is important because honestly, there will be mishaps most likely.

My biggest two mishaps cost me $2100+ and $1400+. The first occured in a 3 day span and the second in a one day span. But Franklin your right about those niches, that can surely happen.

As for SpeedPPC I&#039;ll cover how I use it later. I see what your saying about the keyword groups Franklin. Generally for CPA Offers I dont group this way but I do for retail. I&#039;ll go deeper into my discussion and also reveal a lot more tools as I am sure they will answer a lot of the technical searching and grouping aspects for us.



But for the sake of this series I am only focusing on a small margin payout and am very methodical in longtail keyword groups and domain variations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Franklin and Collin &#8211; It would really depend on the keywords and the amount of volume you would bring. Do not fear a $500/day budget because you think you will spend that much. Watch your campaign closely. I&#8217;ve made decisions on offers within a half a day.</p>
<p>As far as Yahoo is concerned, I will be saying my peace very soon. But when you setup tests this way like I have shown on the content network, typically it would be irrational to think you would burn thru even a quarter of that by stopping the campaign if your monitoring it. If you lose money like that there is no to blame but ourselves. And having a budget a in the first place is important because honestly, there will be mishaps most likely.</p>
<p>My biggest two mishaps cost me $2100+ and $1400+. The first occured in a 3 day span and the second in a one day span. But Franklin your right about those niches, that can surely happen.</p>
<p>As for SpeedPPC I&#8217;ll cover how I use it later. I see what your saying about the keyword groups Franklin. Generally for CPA Offers I dont group this way but I do for retail. I&#8217;ll go deeper into my discussion and also reveal a lot more tools as I am sure they will answer a lot of the technical searching and grouping aspects for us.</p>
<p>But for the sake of this series I am only focusing on a small margin payout and am very methodical in longtail keyword groups and domain variations.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Gokarter! I actually have SpeedPPC and it doesn&#039;t actually group the keywords for us. We can choose to let it group 1 keyword per ad group, or to group keywords that we already previously grouped.

What I want is for a tool to accept, say, a list of 100 keywords, and then it automatically returns similar terms in logical groups. So far the only tools that I know can do this are the Google Adwords Editor, and also Rapid Keyword, but they&#039;re not always 100% accurate, so if anyone knows other solution(s), they&#039;re more than welcome to share =).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Gokarter! I actually have SpeedPPC and it doesn&#8217;t actually group the keywords for us. We can choose to let it group 1 keyword per ad group, or to group keywords that we already previously grouped.</p>
<p>What I want is for a tool to accept, say, a list of 100 keywords, and then it automatically returns similar terms in logical groups. So far the only tools that I know can do this are the Google Adwords Editor, and also Rapid Keyword, but they&#8217;re not always 100% accurate, so if anyone knows other solution(s), they&#8217;re more than welcome to share =).</p>
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		<title>By: Gokarter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gokarter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Franklin I believe Ruck uses a tool call speedppc , now I&#039;m not sure but I do believe it does group the KeyWords. Also I believe you want to set you daily higher to get a more true feel of how that KW will perform,also keep the&quot; impression phantom&quot; out

@Collin all depends how popular the KW you are going after and how many impressions you get on it. So ya possibly you could go threw you daily budget .Keep you eyes on it ,Even if ya pause it it can take a few hours to get it turned off. So if ya have it at 500 and you watching it and it&#039;s near what you really want for your limit then pause it.But then again you might not get a good feel for the KW if it not a keeper or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Franklin I believe Ruck uses a tool call speedppc , now I&#8217;m not sure but I do believe it does group the KeyWords. Also I believe you want to set you daily higher to get a more true feel of how that KW will perform,also keep the&#8221; impression phantom&#8221; out</p>
<p>@Collin all depends how popular the KW you are going after and how many impressions you get on it. So ya possibly you could go threw you daily budget .Keep you eyes on it ,Even if ya pause it it can take a few hours to get it turned off. So if ya have it at 500 and you watching it and it&#8217;s near what you really want for your limit then pause it.But then again you might not get a good feel for the KW if it not a keeper or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Collin: I&#039;ve never set a bid that high (I just finished school; can&#039;t afford that yet, lol), but my take is that it would depend on the niche and surely the keywords that you pick. The more competitive they are, the more likely AND quickly the $500 daily budget to be exhausted. In industries such as games, insurance, ringtones and other competitive ones, the $500 probably gets exhausted within a matter of hours! =(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Collin: I&#8217;ve never set a bid that high (I just finished school; can&#8217;t afford that yet, lol), but my take is that it would depend on the niche and surely the keywords that you pick. The more competitive they are, the more likely AND quickly the $500 daily budget to be exhausted. In industries such as games, insurance, ringtones and other competitive ones, the $500 probably gets exhausted within a matter of hours! =(</p>
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		<title>By: Collin Chatterly</title>
		<link>http://cashtactics.net/03/08/cpa-marketing-series-recap-and-bidding-strategies.html/comment-page-1#comment-3899</link>
		<dc:creator>Collin Chatterly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a questions.  Franklin&#039;s comment sparked this question in my head.  When you do $500 a day starting out.  On average... how much of that $500 is actually used up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a questions.  Franklin&#8217;s comment sparked this question in my head.  When you do $500 a day starting out.  On average&#8230; how much of that $500 is actually used up?</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the feedback Ruck!

In an earlier post you said &quot;Typically I set my content budget at $500/day. Now you may not want to do this but as I have stated that their is something unspoken on the content network.&quot;

I agree with you....$500/day is something that definitely most newbies are not willing to go for. After 3 days, that translates to $1500 which is quite a big chunk of money. Plus, it&#039;s a proven fact that out of 10 test campaigns, probably only 1 or 2 will come out as winners, so after many trial and errors, that $1500 could turn to tens of thousands of dollars, and I don&#039;t think any newbies can afford that...
But on the other hand, if we set the budget too low, then we can&#039;t really make educated decisions, just as you mentioned that if we budget below $100/day, the content network won&#039;t yield in many clicks. Yet $100/day still sounds quite a lot? Or?
What do we do then? Test in cheaper engines such as Yahoo perhaps?

Another question: do you manually group keywords, or do you use a certain software to automate it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the feedback Ruck!</p>
<p>In an earlier post you said &#8220;Typically I set my content budget at $500/day. Now you may not want to do this but as I have stated that their is something unspoken on the content network.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with you&#8230;.$500/day is something that definitely most newbies are not willing to go for. After 3 days, that translates to $1500 which is quite a big chunk of money. Plus, it&#8217;s a proven fact that out of 10 test campaigns, probably only 1 or 2 will come out as winners, so after many trial and errors, that $1500 could turn to tens of thousands of dollars, and I don&#8217;t think any newbies can afford that&#8230;<br />
But on the other hand, if we set the budget too low, then we can&#8217;t really make educated decisions, just as you mentioned that if we budget below $100/day, the content network won&#8217;t yield in many clicks. Yet $100/day still sounds quite a lot? Or?<br />
What do we do then? Test in cheaper engines such as Yahoo perhaps?</p>
<p>Another question: do you manually group keywords, or do you use a certain software to automate it?</p>
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		<title>By: Ruck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 21:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh well I probably could put it in a PDF. Probably be a good idea. But yes, Always give your feedback and/or suggestions. You can use the contact me page, forum or just put it in a comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh well I probably could put it in a PDF. Probably be a good idea. But yes, Always give your feedback and/or suggestions. You can use the contact me page, forum or just put it in a comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ruck, you rock!

I LOVE this series.....

At the end of the series (may be many weeks from now), would you be so kind to compile everything and put them in a PDF?

Can I give feedbacks and suggestions later on? Or do you already have fixed plans about what you&#039;re going to write?

Take care!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ruck, you rock!</p>
<p>I LOVE this series&#8230;..</p>
<p>At the end of the series (may be many weeks from now), would you be so kind to compile everything and put them in a PDF?</p>
<p>Can I give feedbacks and suggestions later on? Or do you already have fixed plans about what you&#8217;re going to write?</p>
<p>Take care!</p>
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