19 Comments

Deb Said,
February 18th, 2008 @1:24 am  

Ruck,

Great post since now the fast research is followed by the speedy product creation. Also some of the info it seems can be used as content on yahoo answers.

I know you’ve discussed a lot of ways for traffic generation but for marketing a health product ebook would you recommend the list building from the zero to hero post via the classified ads strategy for those of not technical in terms of video?

Deb

timelf123 Said,
February 18th, 2008 @1:38 am  

I’ve been using the filetype:pdf or filetype:doc in my searches for a while now. This is a great tip to find prewritten content and cuts work down by a LOT if you find good shit

February 18th, 2008 @1:59 am  

Ruck,

First, loving the new blog design! Great job to whoever did the work.

Second, is there any legal liability in just taking chapters from other documents and stringing them together?

Ruck Said,
February 18th, 2008 @2:50 am  

Legal?

This is the Internet :), if you wanted to get really technical then we could go into copyright, legal, unethical, blah blah blah. Grab what you want and roll with it.

Scott L. Said,
February 18th, 2008 @2:54 am  

Are you saying that by lifting other people’s content, we create our own products/reports/ebooks, etc. from that?

Scott

Ruck Said,
February 18th, 2008 @3:28 am  

Yea,

It’s whatever you got the junk for. If your the uptight ethical type then your product might kickass being unique but I am going to stop you by ripping a dozen products faster. You dont necessarily have to copy anything you want to. However, I’m not against it and if this was what I was into (selling ebooks) you bet your dandies I would be ripping the living daylights of it.

February 18th, 2008 @3:30 am  

I guess you could find .doc s with no statement of copyright, or you could just rewrite the documents into different words, then your not breaking any law’s or pissing anyone off.

Della Said,
February 18th, 2008 @3:38 am  

Hey Ruck,

Your blog looks great! It is funny that you posted this article today, b/c I have been working on setting up my “free offer” to start building my first list. First of all, great resource for material in this post…but finding and making the material is not my challenge. It is figuring out how to get it where I want it.

I have been using you aweber tutorial that you put together back in December, and it has really been great…however…and this is probably stupid; but I can’t figure out how to, or what to put in that blank on the aweber thing so that when they opt in they are directed to their free report. In your example you used the income4beginners site, but I am using something I wrote…

Anyway, I will go to the forum and post a question there b/c I know this in not the place; but wanted to touch base and tell ya that the format looked great!

Denise Said,
February 18th, 2008 @4:49 am  

This is a great technique! There are so many ways to use this concept it is unbelievable. There are so many things staring at us in our face every day and we never even know it.

Thanks for showing us this!

XRay Said,
February 18th, 2008 @6:51 am  

@$1000 Affiliate Experiment & @ Scott L: I’m no expert on this, but I would treat the content as plr that needs to be rewritten to avoid/minimize the issues you brought up. Rewrite the “found” content and run it thru DupeFreePro (for comparison against the original). How much of a rewrite? I personally wouldn’t be happy with anything less than a 100% rewrite - this is what I’m doing with my first info product (non IM niche); it’s taking more time to complete, but I’m confident I won’t run into any trouble with the rights granted.

Scott L. Said,
February 18th, 2008 @7:14 am  

Hey, I got no problem with ethics, ripping etc. I was just wondering if that’s what this was and I wasn’t missing something. I’m up for profiting any way I can.

But XRay, rewriting 100%? That would not be rewriting, it would be writing.

Scott

Chris Said,
February 18th, 2008 @3:32 pm  

Wow, that is a killer idea.

Robert Said,
February 18th, 2008 @3:58 pm  

Ruck:

You said once that you’ve grown up and stopped most of your worst black hat techniques. So when will you continue your maturation process and step UP, and stop stealing other people’s hard work and claiming it as your own?

One day, a letter will come from a lawyer, and people who steal copyrighted works will start crying because they have been selling something for years that was stolen. All of the revenue will be clawed back, and all of those hours of effort lost.

Ruck Said,
February 18th, 2008 @4:27 pm  

Robert,

I’m going to leave your comment for the sole fact that you made yourself look like a complete dumbass. You see at the very top of the post where it says “I would like to say right now that I do not produce nor intend on producing information products.”

Good job man. You flew off the handle with your pathetic “ethics and moral” “I’m from the Warrior Forum” bullshit. Go back there and pout. If you think this is blackhat man, then you have no idea what that really is. Furthermore, if shit like this bothers you, you might go read another blog.

But start off by reading the post thoroughly before you criticize me. I clearly stated I dont do it, and I dont intend to do it. If you hate me for showing people this, then you must hate Google for having the feature. IF not that just makes you a hypocrite, but something tells me, you truly are one.

Rummy Said,
February 19th, 2008 @3:13 am  

Ruck, I know that last message was supposed to be this heated retort where you kicked that guy’s ass verbally. But I wanted to let you know that it made my morning and I spit milk all over my damn keyboard reading it. Thanks for the laughs, and for hating the warrior forum as much as me.

XRay Said,
February 19th, 2008 @6:30 am  

@ Scott L: I aim for 100% rewrites, but sometimes when I’m in a hurry I settle for 85% :-)

Jonathan Said,
February 19th, 2008 @3:32 pm  

QUOTE:
Legal? This is the Internet :), if you wanted to get really technical then we could go into copyright, legal, unethical, blah blah blah. Grab what you want and roll with it.

—Actually, Ruck, you flew off the handle. Black Hat stuff is not ILLEGAL.

Breaking copyright IS. Do you not see the difference between ethics/morals and the law? Your accounting class should cover this.

Google does not include the feature to search only PDFs or WORD docs to encourage theft. Yet your post encourages others to use it to steal — whether YOU do it or not.

Ruck Said,
February 19th, 2008 @4:05 pm  

Actually Jonathan,

Your definition of blackhat, my definition of it and everyone elses definition of it are merely opinions. Some people actually do consider things that are illegal online such as fraud, copyright theft as blackhat. While I see your point and I did say “grab gobs of information”, I would trust that everyone was a little open minded to know that copying directly only leads to trouble.

I only responded because it was indicated that I copied information directly when all I really did was show an advanced feature on Google that allows people access to tons of information that is not easily found using regular search.

I do see your point that maybe the wording does encourage others to steal and will change that. I respect that you took a strategic approach instead of accusing me of something.

The OA Said,
February 19th, 2008 @8:56 pm  

Awesome post Ruck. An excellent outline of how to do research on already existing products to help support effort with creating something of your own. Easy and simple to understand. If you need any help with this stuff, let me know Ruck.

In RE: to the post before yours: ethics/morals and it’s ENTIRE relation to business is also an opinion, or interpretation. And actually his accounting classes will not cover this material; this is under business regulation, compliance, and governance. The terms will become known, but unless you are in an audit, governance, or perform operational risk assessments, then most likely you will have very limited information and a limited understanding of this. Also, there is no blatant information on plagiarizing copyrighted or protected works of any kind.

The “clear and definitive” interpretation of copyrights is evolving and changing as quickly as business. And with the ever-building movement towards interconnected and linked “social communities/efforts”, this will become an even more gray area.

And the feature that Google has is for everyday users to find information on searched topics, in various file formats, which are to be used/read/reviewed for whatever purpose the user decides. If you were building something and needed to learn everything you could about the sector, this IS a useful tool. I do not see how it encourages anything wrong in any sense. Having reference works to help you create your products and get them to market as fast as possible is in no way illegal.

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