67 Comments

Mike Said,
January 22nd, 2008 @7:45 pm  

Been discussing this over at bhw lately and I’m gonna give it a go. So do you use a subdomain? Or do you have a domain name that has something about ringtones in it? I’m wondering if I should just buy a “ringtone” type domain for this purpose.

jayme Said,
January 22nd, 2008 @7:49 pm  

I didn’t know that you resorted to spam to make your money.

Ruck Said,
January 22nd, 2008 @7:49 pm  

http://www.jammintones.com

I am running 5 offers all from a different network :)…although the networks want more traffic!

Personally I try to get a domain as close to the offer as I can. That domain was surprisingly not taken.

Ruck Said,
January 22nd, 2008 @7:52 pm  

jayme - You can look at is as spam or as doing what almost 90% of what others do on video sites. Find something cool and reupload it.

I can tell you haven’t read the blog thoroughly. I do some aggressive tactics and if your not down with that I really could care less if your reading.

Thanks for reading the little disclaimer in Italics.

mo Said,
January 22nd, 2008 @8:10 pm  

great post man. i sent you a email n regards to this. let me know whats up when u get a chance. peace.

the other dude on here must be upset because hes not making any money.

Mike Said,
January 22nd, 2008 @8:44 pm  

@ruck…good tip, thanks. but how do you run 5 different aff offers on the one redirect? if you put jammintones.com on the video, i see it redirects to jamster, isn’t that just one offer from one network?

Ruck Said,
January 22nd, 2008 @8:52 pm  

yea man,

5 domains = 5 offers.

I just put that one domain up as an example.

Chris Said,
January 22nd, 2008 @9:17 pm  

Hey, great post, Ruck. I need to print and frame this one.

I also need to get that Mass Video Uploader. I’m just submitting to Y**Tube so I’m sure I’m losing out on a ton of traffic. I hadn’t even thought about P2P or torrents.

I also need to get quicker so I can do more than one at a time.

So do you create multiple accts and vote on them too?

By the way, I signed up for e-mail updates up in the top corner Feedburner box but I’m not getting them….FYI.

Thanks!

Chris Said,
January 22nd, 2008 @9:21 pm  

P.S. - SPAM comes from a can and tastes like crap. This, on the other hand, is creative marketing.

Renyu Said,
January 22nd, 2008 @9:25 pm  

Ruck, you’re missing out on cash? When i go to your jammintones i get redirected to some stupid site because i’m not from the US. Get a Geo IP script (IM me if you want it) and redirect non-us traffic to offers from their own country. There are many ringtone offers on millnic for a lot of countries.

Mike 2 Said,
January 22nd, 2008 @9:36 pm  

For others who like Linux — Linux comes with some free tools to add watermarks and to convert from FLV to MPG. If one is crafty enough with Perl or Bash, they can even read YT urls from a file, do the automated conversion, and re-upload back to YT.

I have to hand it to Ruck, though, for thinking of this. Great idea!

Angeln Said,
January 22nd, 2008 @11:30 pm  

That’s a nice talk here.
What about using those tactics with also using tools like Tube Automator? Did you try that yet? How else do you get traffic to your vids? Most of the times, it’s pretty hard to receive traffic.

Ruck Said,
January 22nd, 2008 @11:41 pm  

@ Renyu - I know dude I already had calls about 330 codes showing in the network meaning I am getting foreign traffic.

The other thing really is I dont reupload a video to youtube. I guess I could but I would imagine it getting deleted and your account banned quicker if people noticing you ripping. They are ripping too, it’s just one huge circle jerk.

I didn’t really think of this on my own. Bumps and stuff along the way and just been common knowledge for a long time.

Cy Said,
January 23rd, 2008 @12:00 am  

To make the most cash on this money, always jump on the trends.
For example, if you are promoting pop ringtone. Go to pop charts like billboard, UK top 40…. and see what’s hot and what’s not. Target the hot selling singles/albums.

hope this helps,
CY

Mage Said,
January 23rd, 2008 @1:48 am  

Renyu, is there any chance you could set up the geo redirect script for download?

Chris Said,
January 23rd, 2008 @3:48 am  

Yes, I would like that redirect code as well, if possible. I’m working on a vid right now. Thx.

TMC Said,
January 23rd, 2008 @9:54 pm  

I’m interested in the geo ip script as well if you are willing to share :) Thanks!

XRay Said,
January 23rd, 2008 @10:59 pm  

Excellent article Ruck. Been reading about this method lately and it opened my eyes to other applications outside of ringtones, etc. Thanks

BTW, that ‘resorting to spam’ comment was hilarious. The way I see it, you’ve gotta be ‘creatively aggressive’ to get paid in this game. Like Gordon Gekko said ‘it’s trench warefare out there…’.

G-Man Said,
January 24th, 2008 @11:47 pm  

>Personally I have my own trackers and storage service

Can you provide more info on where to get this? I’ve looked but can’t find any information on it. And my dedicated host won’t let me run a tracker on my box.

G-Man

dolomite Said,
January 25th, 2008 @1:03 am  

Hey ruck, do you iframe the ring tone offers or direct link them?

Ruck Said,
January 25th, 2008 @1:15 am  

I buy a domain and redirect. Look at comment #3 (first one by me)

January 25th, 2008 @4:01 am  

video post robot. Is that a monthly fee, and how fast is it to load. I got video upload pro software, and it takes ages to load 1 vid, and then it freezes so I just give up

dolomite Said,
January 25th, 2008 @4:46 am  

Does ringtones tend to do better on Yahoo than on Google? Leas thats what I’ve been hearing.

Ruck Said,
January 25th, 2008 @5:33 am  

i dont know, never promoted them on search.

Davidson Said,
January 26th, 2008 @12:02 am  

Great post Ruck. And I was one who never of thought of this before.

Can you use an inframe instead of a redirect for this? Wouldn’t you get better tracking through an iframe?

Ruck Said,
January 26th, 2008 @12:05 am  

Hmm,

I dont see why night. The only thing with an iFrame is I have had browser troubles before. You may get better tracking, who knows really.

See I dont really concentrate on the method to hard. The idea is to really throw as many videos out there as you can….as fast as you can.

Davidson Said,
January 26th, 2008 @1:29 pm  

Thanks Ruck. I haven’t done that many iframes or redirects. So I will take your advice and use the redirect route.

JOHN O Said,
January 27th, 2008 @8:51 pm  

Erm, can somebody give me a link to a CPA offer from one of these companies for a ringtone offer or can someone tell me which network currently is running one.

Ruck Said,
January 27th, 2008 @8:54 pm  

Almost all CPA networks have ringtone offers. Copeac, CPA Empire, CPA Storm, Primary Ads, the list goes on.

TMC Said,
January 27th, 2008 @9:33 pm  

Thanks for giving me something new to try. I started night before last and I’m already making money via Rocket Profit. You guys should stop asking so many questions and get to work :)

Ruck Said,
January 27th, 2008 @10:17 pm  

Awesome News!

Rocket Profit is a damn good network :)

JOHN O Said,
January 28th, 2008 @7:37 am  

TMC - Just signed up to Rocket Profit.

How much money have you made with this method?

Ruck - How much do you make with this method?

How hard is it to make $200 a week?

TMC Said,
January 28th, 2008 @7:28 pm  

Hi John,

4 sales @ $10.00 payout so far. I’m not pushing this as much as I could because I’m working on other things. I just like to try something different once in a while to see if it works. I’ll probably teach this to my niece so she can quit bagging groceries lol.

Anyway, I can’t see why you couldn’t do $200 (and even much more) a week with this.

On another note, it does seem like this method is making it’s rounds on forums and blogs, but I wouldn’t get discouraged by thinking this will get saturated. Most people will rule this out as “too much work” and some will jump in and probably give up real quick.

loclhero Said,
January 28th, 2008 @11:08 pm  

@tmc, were you just using youtube or were you doing torrents, limewire etc?

TMC Said,
January 28th, 2008 @11:19 pm  

Just using youtube for now. I’ll play around with torrents and other stuff later.

Hey, If you guys don’t want to pay for VPR, look at what I’m using free:

http://www.tubemogul.com/

Nick Said,
January 29th, 2008 @10:06 am  

Yo Ruck.. I’ve talked to you on AIM about this (chainsaws), and I’ve got maybe.. 50 vids uploaded to 30 diff sites right now.. Am getting abotu 40 impressions to the ringtone LP per day.. and have yet to have a conversion. At about what rate is this converting at for you? Getting frustrating.
Thanks!

(ps geo ip would be dope! get so much international traffic >.

Ruck Said,
January 29th, 2008 @5:16 pm  

40 Impressions?

I think you mean clicks. If you’ve got 50 videos on 30 sites and only 40 clicks your doing something very wrong. My guess is you uploaded way to fast and the videos got deleted.

Nick Said,
January 30th, 2008 @12:34 am  

My vids arent deleted.. Theyre getting views everyday… Just havent gotten 1 conversion yet.
Seriously dunno whats going on :/

Rob Said,
January 30th, 2008 @3:18 pm  

I’m seeing about the same results as Nick, I submitted about 50 videos to 30 sites with Video Post Robot and have 1 conversion. I’m seeing about 50 clicks a day. I’ll probably do another 50 and see how it goes but it seems like an awful lot of work for little return.

Ruck Said,
January 30th, 2008 @4:46 pm  

Could it be that whenever I have tried to find a popular video on youtube every one of them have watermarks>?

Now that BHW and WickedFire are doing this I would expect a ton of work for results. Another method bites the dust :(

Chris Said,
January 30th, 2008 @4:56 pm  

This method has been beaten to death. The window of opportunity existed 2 or 3 months ago but now, you can’t swing a dead cat around in youtube without hitting a music video that’s watermarked.

You want to be different? Promote different offers. Flycell has a nice Tom Brady jersey wallpaper for your cellphone and the Super Bowl is coming up.

Find a funny, cool Tom Brady video and watermark it with “Get Your Tom Brady Cell Phone Wallpaper at http://www.ispamyoutubeallday.com”.

Chris Said,
January 30th, 2008 @4:57 pm  

Wow, what the heck did that fake website I typed in link to???

Ruck Said,
January 30th, 2008 @5:50 pm  

The word youtube autolinks bro :)…Dont you worry about that one bit, Ruckles has it under control :)

Chris Said,
January 30th, 2008 @7:00 pm  

LOL!!!

TMC Said,
January 30th, 2008 @11:00 pm  

I knew it wouldn’t take long for a WSO:

http://www.warriorforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=215767

Ruck Said,
January 31st, 2008 @3:21 am  

Yea,

That dude usually makes quite a few reports over shit that is already being discussed. Another reason why I left that forum, it’s ebooky and you got people ripping other people off by selling shit already spoken.

I keep saying it hoping the masses will realize it.
I count 5 methods I explained here for nothing since December that people have turned around, packaged and sold.

Hilarious……………..and Pathetic.

Chris Said,
January 31st, 2008 @3:37 am  

Son of a bitch! I can’t believe that.

loclhero Said,
January 31st, 2008 @5:53 pm  

This is why I will never tell anyone what my best money maker is. I just jumped on this ringtone deal and it’ll be dead before I make a dime.

@tmc, tubemogul is cool but way too slow…maybe it’s a server issue coz everyone and their brother is doing this but i’m sitting here watching one vid load for the past 5 minutes.

Doodee Said,
February 1st, 2008 @4:11 pm  

Thanks for sharing

Mr Brain Said,
February 2nd, 2008 @4:44 am  

The software you recommended put their own logo into the video making the video have 3 big logo and url, how should i prevent video converter and watermark factory from putting their logo into the video

Scott Said,
February 2nd, 2008 @5:27 am  

Sure, this method will probably get killed for now, however, eventually I feel there will be a few diehards that will continue to promote this way and rake in the $$$.

Besides, what works for one does not always work for others, and many will not have the right technique to make a killing, figure it is too much work for too little money and give up on it anyways.

Oh yeah, and just don’t go for ringtones…there’s plenty of other niche markets that this method could be applied to as Ruck has already stated.

Ruck Said,
February 2nd, 2008 @5:29 am  

@ Mr Brain — I have registered versions and there is no logo of theirs in them.

loclhero Said,
February 2nd, 2008 @6:54 pm  

@brain, yeah, you have to register to get rid of the logo.

@ruck, bro VPR is killing me….90 minutes and the vids were only 5% uploaded? what format are you saving them? mpg, avi…?? i can’t get this tactic to fly

@everyone…i love the blog but wouldn’t this be smokin’ if threads like this were running at ruck’s forum? let’s not forget over there!

February 4th, 2008 @2:15 am  

Ruck.

I sent you an email, that I didn’t want to post openly. Could you give it a look, if you get some time.

thanks,

chillyd

February 4th, 2008 @4:04 am  

Ruck what format are you coverting to with Total Video Converter. There are about 20 options with the paid version.

thanks,

Derek

Ruck Said,
February 4th, 2008 @4:11 am  

I convert to MPEG. Might read this though, others feel differently:

http://cashtactics.net/11/29/make-money-and-build-traffic-with-video-marketing-using-these-methods/

And I responded to your email.

V Said,
February 8th, 2008 @6:18 am  

If you’re having problems with Video Watermark Factory continually crashing and have a dual core processor try setting the affinity to just one processor. (Alt+tab+del, then find VWF and right click it. Hit “Set Affinity” and turn tick off the second processor)

This has seemingly fixed my crashing problem.

Junglepocket Said,
February 14th, 2008 @12:29 pm  

Ruck,

I think I watched one of your videos on youtube and have a quick question.

In the video you talk about submitting articles to places like ezine and go articles, and that you use some ’special tools’ to help them get high SERPS.

Care to share the name of these tools?

Thanks

March 3rd, 2008 @9:13 am  

1 sale @ $11 and I haven’t started working putting time on this. Thanks ruck for a great write up.

wse120372 Said,
March 3rd, 2008 @4:59 pm  

I have hit the wall at installing video watermark factory. It gives me a (MWF??) error when I start the program.

I have emailed them repeatedly but he not recieved a response. Anyone else have these issues?

What other program would anyone suggest that will accomplish the same task?

March 3rd, 2008 @5:42 pm  

See coments by @V Said above or use VirtualdubMOD http://www.videohelp.com/tools/VirtualdubMOD

wse120372 Said,
March 3rd, 2008 @5:48 pm  

Thanks much. I’ll give it a shot.

Ringtons Said,
May 31st, 2008 @3:39 pm  

Nice step by step article. I am sure it can be done for alot of other things besides ringtones.

Thanks for the list of tools you use i like the fact you described them and how you use them. 5 stars for this post shows you how to do it and it works

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